Paul Eisen

Paul Eisen

Saturday, 22 December 2012

The Not-So-Strange Case of Oskar Groning by Paul Eisen

I received this email and link

Paul,

"Tell me what do you make of the testimony of Oskar Groning?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Gröning

You can click the link and learn about Oskar Groning's experiences at Auschwitz and his subsequent testimony, all of which, strongly affirms the Auschwitz extermination narrative.

Well, Groning is not alone. The Holocaust narrative has lots of ‘perpetrators’ who have nearly fallen over themselves to plead guilty with graphic statements and lurid confessions - all supporting the gas-chamber narrative. The trouble is, that the forensic, topographical, documentary, chemical, photographic etc. evidence, all contradict the narrative.

So what gives? Why would these perpetrators incriminate themselves?

Here are a few possible explanations:

1. The statements and confessions were tortured or threatened out of them – this certainly happened to the main perpetrator witness, Rudolph Hoess and many others. As background, you can research the treatment meted out to captured Nazis at the site of the concentration camps, in pre-Nuremberg interrogations and elsewhere.

2. Many probably agreed to what their interrogators wanted in order to gain a lighter sentence (I would have).
 
3. Because the story became so established, these alleged witnesses put together things they really had seen (I’m sure there were executions etc. at Auschwitz) and out of those (true) events created for themselves confirmation of the whole (false) extermination narrative. Loads of people will say things like “I saw the piles of bodies” or “I saw the piles of shoes”. Well, they probably did see those things and then, when confronted with the 'incontrovertible reality' of the extermination narrative, made what they had seen fit. We all do it and I'm sure there's some psychological term to describe the phenomenon.

Similarly, they may well have heard from others (the camps and elsewhere were buzzing with stories) who said they saw the gas-chambers. In fact, this has happened time and time again when, on the witness-stand, a ‘witness' to gassings is forced to admit (and maybe, realise) that they didn’t actually see it themselves but they had met someone who did. As we all know, any story is so much more engaging in the first person

4. Many captured Nazis may well have felt they might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb. If you're going to hang anyway, there may well been something quite attractive about being hung for the greatest crime of all time. I think Eichmann, a notable loser, may have fallen into this category.

5. People love to be part of the crowd. This would have been true both in the immediate post-war climate and also in the present-day. This would be especially true in Germany where to worship the Holocaust is de riguer.  But even here in the U.K., Holocaust worship has its perks. I’ve personally met loads of Jews who have made a career out of being a survivor. It's great: you’re feted wherever you go and, above all, people listen to you. Also, you can make quite a good living.

6. Some people just love Jews and are true Holocaust worshippers. Like so many people, they simply 'believed'.

In the case of this guy, I’d say that his testimony is a mixture of numbers 3, 5 and 6.

1 comment:

  1. I quote from http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/actu/actu05/actu0505.html:
    »I HAVE just read the article "The fight against Holocaust denial" by Raffi Berg, quoted by your site from BBC News. In that article, we read the following:
    "The fear that deniers could gain the upper hand led an SS camp guard, Oskar Gröning, to break a lifetime of silence earlier this year in a BBC documentary, Auschwitz: The Nazis and the Final Solution. 'I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections [for the gas chambers] took place,' said Mr Gröning, now in his 80s. 'I would like you to believe these atrocities happened -- because I was there.' "
    Mr. Berg's quote is intriguing. I happen to have not only watched, but also tape-recorded, the BBC documentary he mentions, when it was broadcast last March 8 [2005] on the Portuguese channel RTP-2, in its original English version subtitled in Portuguese, and I was struck by the contradiction between the subtitles and the actual words one can hear in the film.
    They differ in one important detail from what one can distinctly hear, both in the German words spoken by Gröning and their superposed English translation.
    The Portuguese subtitles, like Mr. Berg's quote, follow what I gather to be the BBC-distributed text that one can find here (Gröning speaking):
    http://www.pbs.org/auschwitz/about/transcripts_6.html
    ...
    Now here are the actual words one gets in the English superposed commentary, which is a faithful translation of the German words one is also able to hear beneath the English:
    "I see it as my task, now at my age, to face up to these things that I experienced and to oppose the Holocaust deniers who claim that Auschwitz never happened. And that's why I am here today. Because I want to tell those deniers: I have seen the crematoria, I have seen the burning pits - and I want you to believe me that these atrocities happened. I was there."
    Spot the difference.
    ...
    A. S. Marques, Lisbon, Portugal«
    I may add that another article (Allan Hall, "Auschwitz guard's nightmares linger," The Age, Jan 27, 2005, http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Auschwitz-guards-life-of-lingering-nightmares/2005/01/26/1106415663534.html) quotes Gröning as follows:
    "On one night in January 1943 I saw for the first time how the Jews were actually gassed.
    It was in a half-built farmyard near to the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp. A gas chamber was built there. We were searching the wood nearby for prisoners who had escaped.
    There were more than 100 prisoners and soon there were panic-filled cries as they were herded into the chamber and the door was shut.
    Then a sergeant with a gasmask went to a hole in the wall and from a tin shook Zyklon B gas pellets inside..."
    The question is: how can you gas people in a gas chamber that was just in the process of being built?
    The answer is that here we have a mélange of facts melded into an impossible statement:
    a) In January 1943, four crematories were being built inside the Auschwitz-Birkenau, but none of them were operable until March 1943 -- including any of their gas chambers, if they had any to begin with (which can be refuted on many grounds, but that's another matter; see http://codoh.com/node/1204 and http://codoh.com/node/1713 for more).
    b) There is said to have existed in January 1943 one or even two old farm houses -- also called Bunkers for some inscrutable reason -- just outside the proper Birkenau camp which are said to have been converted into gas chambers either in the second half of 1941 or in early 1942 (depending on whom of the witnesses and orthodox historians you are inclined to believe, if any; alas, these stories can also be refuted on many grounds not to be discussed here; see http://codoh.com/node/1193 for details).
    Hence Gröning confounds the construction of the crematoria of that time (which he probably) witnessed) with the stories of gassings in those Bunkers as they have been bandied about for 70+ years by now.

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